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ENELE SOPOAGA: Of course that is why there is an urgent need to take into the emissions from the shipping industry. But this is critical for us to be able to know exactly what the contribution of the shipping industry to greenhouse gas emissions and what actions we need to do in order to take account of this. We appreciate that it is an enormous task, but we have to work on that somehow.
JAMIE TAHANA: So you understand that it is a significant contribution from the shipping industry, but there is no quantifiable measure?
ES: Well, I mean there is, but of course the important thing is, not only taking account of emissions, but options that we can perhaps address and reduce our greenhouse gas emissions from the shipping industry and perhaps also lay out the foundation of our basis for our options for shipping industry to be more environmentally friendly in terms of fuel consumption, energy consumption and technology would provide for that and of course we appreciate the efforts by the shipping industry to improve consumption energy efficiency that has been started already and we appreciate that.
JT: As you say there are already changes being done in the shipping industry, so what are you pushing for from the IMO to do, then?
ES: Well, it's still not yet clear how we can account for the greenhouse gas emissions from shipping. Whether it is the ownership of the emissions, which parts emissions are owned by. For example, is it the make of the ships? Is it the charters of the cargo? Or the roads that carry that cargo? Or is it the registry or the flag under which the ship is operating. I mean these are issues that need to be properly accounted for. At the moment there is no model or formula to account for that greenhouse gas emissions, and who owns those emissions?
JT: But you want a whole, overarching global model, and that's why you're pushing for the IMO is it?
ES: Absolutely. I mean they are the organisation with expertise on those things. These are things that are typical, but should not be an excuse for us, the world to ignore. We must work on this, and perhaps collectively come to some sort of equation.
