This story was originally published in First Person.
This started as a podcast about Apple, then (just like an apple) it grew.
John Campbell is an Apple user, he has an iPod and an iPhone (it's a bashed old 4, but he loves it).
But when John heard that for the financial year ending 27 September 2014, Apple New Zealand had revenue of $568 million and paid tax of only $6.8 million, he was really confused.
The answer, it seems, is in Apple New Zealand's cost of sales - $551 million.
That's 97% of their revenue.
John set out to find Apple New Zealand, so he could ask them why their costs were so high?
In the process he learnt all about a revolutionary move by the OECD to address multinational tax avoidance.
Starring the OECD's Pascal Saint-Amans, New Zealand's Bernard Hickey, Apple and John Campbell himself, this is a podcast of taxes, questions, confusion and discovery.