Pasi Sahlberg: to rush education reform is to ruin it

As the major review into New Zealand's education system gathers pace, what lessons can be learned from Scandinavian education systems? Education expert Pasi Sahlberg is the former director general of the Finnish education system, a former senior education specialist at the World Bank and a lead education expert at the European Training Foundation. He joins Kathryn with insights about how other countries have managed reform and warns against rushing changes. He is in New Zealand giving talks at the University of Auckland's Kohia Centre around the subject of making our schools better.